Îò÷åò DSB 13.10.15:MH17 Crash Appendix W - Consultation Part B
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APPENDIX W
CONSULTATION PART B: FLYING OVER CONFLICT ZONES
State / | Ministry of |
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Section / | LETTER |
Text to be corrected | Part of the Dutch Safety Board’s investigation was conducted by |
Argumentation / | |
Dutch Safety Board | The Dutch Safety Board concludes that the parties concerned |
State / | Ministry of |
Page | 1 |
Section / | LETTER |
Text to be corrected | The report cites the NOTAM issued by the Russian Federation |
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Dutch Safety Board | The Dutch Safety Board requested additional information about |
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State / | Ministry of |
Page | 15 |
Section / | 1 |
Text to be corrected | In the context of this report, the term safety is meant as an |
Argumentation / | |
Dutch Safety Board | The defnitions of safety and security used are included in |
State / | Ministry of |
Page | 23 |
Section / | 2/3 |
Text to be corrected | If, based on its AOC, an airline is authorised to fly and thus land |
Argumentation / | |
Dutch Safety Board | The diagram is not specifcally relevant to the Netherlands, but |
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State / | Ministry of |
Page | 31 |
Section / | |
Text to be corrected | After ‘Following a period of unrest’ add:‘, during which RF |
Argumentation / | The unrest was orchestrated by the RF. President Putin later admitted |
Dutch Safety Board | The Dutch Safety Board does not provide any political |
State / | Ministry of |
Page | 32 |
Section / | |
Text to be corrected | Add: ‘The international community does not recognise the |
Argumentation / | Make it clear here that the annexation is contrary to international law |
Dutch Safety Board | The Dutch Safety Board does not provide any political |
State / | Ministry of |
Page | 32 |
Section / | |
Text to be corrected | This conflict increasingly spread to the airspace.’ Proposed |
Argumentation / | |
Dutch Safety Board | The Dutch Safety Board was not able to verify the exact |
State / | Ministry of |
Page | 35 |
Section / | |
Text to be corrected | List of aircraft shot down: insofar as is known, until MH17, it only |
Argumentation / | |
Dutch Safety Board | The Dutch Safety Board was not able to verify the exact |
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State / | Ministry of |
Page | 37 |
Section / | |
Text to be corrected | Add nuance to the entire section using other statements: |
Argumentation / | See the accompanying letter. Too much value is attached considering |
Dutch Safety Board | The Dutch Safety Board was not able to verify the exact |
State / | Ministry of |
Page | 39 |
Section / | |
Text to be corrected | Western military sources doubted this notion (see also |
Argumentation / | Elaborate or delete |
Dutch Safety Board | This concerns a reference to an elaboration in Chapter 6. |
State / | Ministry of |
Page | 43 |
Section / | |
Text to be corrected | Delete ‘The weapon systems that were explicitly mentioned in a |
Argumentation / | This sub-conclusion goes too far. There were several statements by |
Dutch Safety Board | If an armed conflict is being fought in an area and expands to |
State / | Ministry of |
Page | 59 |
Section / | |
Text to be corrected | Delete ‘The weapon systems that were explicitly mentioned in a |
Argumentation / | This conclusion goes too far: there is no linear connection between |
Dutch Safety Board | If an armed conflict is being fought in an area and expands to |
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State / | Ministry of |
Page | 59 |
Section / | |
Text to be corrected | Delete ‘The threats…in a press statement’ |
Argumentation / | As stated before, the explanation on p. 38 must be elaborated. It |
Dutch Safety Board | The Dutch Safety Board deems this report by the Ukrainian |
State / | Ministry of |
Page | [60/td] |
Text to be corrected | Add after ‘was incorrect’: ‘However, there is other information |
Argumentation / | |
Dutch Safety Board | See previous comment. |
State / | Ministry of |
Page | 61 |
Section / | |
Text to be corrected | Add: ‘It must also not be ruled out that, based on its own |
Argumentation / | The report states that the armed forces did not consider that there |
Dutch Safety Board | How the risk assessment was performed in Ukraine is described |
State / | Ministry of |
Page | 62 |
Section / | |
Text to be corrected | Add: ‘As is customary, the NOTAM stated…’ |
Argumentation / | The Dutch Safety Board established that NOTAMs rarely contain any |
Dutch Safety Board | his is already addressed in another conclusion. |
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State / | Ministry of |
Page | 62 |
Section / | |
Text to be corrected | Add: ‘non-binding recommendation’ |
Argumentation / | Repeat what has already been stated, that this document is nonbinding |
Dutch Safety Board | Elsewhere the report states that ICAO Docs are non-binding, |
State / | Ministry of |
Page | 62 |
Section / | |
Text to be corrected | Delete: ‘The weapon systems…closed’. |
Argumentation / | See previous comments. In light of the information available prior to |
Dutch Safety Board | The Dutch Safety Board was not able to verify the exact |
State / | Ministry of |
Page | 69 |
Section / | 5/4 |
Text to be corrected | The difference between safety and security is not explicit |
Argumentation / | |
Dutch Safety Board | This section describes the organisation at Malaysia Airlines. In |
State / | Ministry of |
Page | 69 |
Section / | |
Text to be corrected | ‘The Security Department is responsible for security. Analysts |
Argumentation / | This shortcoming at airlines appears to have been given little weight |
Dutch Safety Board | The shortcoming that arises from Annex 17 of the Chicago |
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State / | Ministry of |
Page | 69 |
Section / | |
Text to be corrected | situation on the ground’ was indeed verifed properly by |
Argumentation / | |
Dutch Safety Board | Malaysia Airlines did not operate to any destinations in Ukraine |
State / | Ministry of |
Page | 73 |
Section / | |
Text to be corrected | Prior to 17 July, the airline possessed no information that there |
Argumentation / | The presence of such systems prior to 17/7 and after (with regard to |
Dutch Safety Board | The text refers to the information Malaysia Airlines did or did not |
State / | Ministry of |
Page | 76 |
Section / | |
Text to be corrected | States - airlines. Another word must be used instead of ‘based |
Argumentation / | The sentence is basically correct, but in light of paragraph 1 it seems |
Dutch Safety Board | Considering the context the addition is not considered |
State / | Ministry of |
Page | 82 |
Section / | |
Text to be corrected | Add ‘just as all the other airlines’ after ‘did’ |
Argumentation / | As demonstrated by the Dutch Safety Board, not a single other airline |
Dutch Safety Board | This section specifcally refers to Malaysia Airlines |
State / | Ministry of |
Page | 82 |
Section / | |
Text to be corrected | Delete ‘despite… fghter plane |
Argumentation / | With today’s knowledge, too much value is attached to the statement |
Dutch Safety Board | The Dutch Safety Board deems this report by the Ukrainian |
State / | Ministry of |
Page | 84 |
Section / | |
Text to be corrected | conflict increasingly spread to the air’. Proposed addition: until |
Argumentation / | |
Dutch Safety Board | The Dutch Safety Board was not able to verify the exact |
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State / | Ministry of |
Page | 87 |
Section / | |
Text to be corrected | This section also mentions the airlines ‘based’ in a particular |
Argumentation / | In the context of the Netherlands, airlines are only ‘based’ in the |
Dutch Safety Board | The context reveals that, with regard to a flight prohibition or |
State / | Ministry of The |
Page | 89 |
Section / | 6.3 |
Text to be corrected | Addition by the CTIVD is missing: ‘It is then up to the AIVD to |
Argumentation / | |
Dutch Safety Board | For the full text, refer to Appendix T. |
State / | Ministry of The |
Page | 89 |
Section / | 6.3 |
Text to be corrected | It is important to explicate the interaction between the AIVD’s |
Argumentation / | |
Dutch Safety Board | he footnote refers to the Appendix in which this is explained. |
State / | Ministry of The |
Page | 90 |
Section / | 6.3 |
Text to be corrected | After the sentence: ‘in accordance with the AIVD’s policy… |
Argumentation / | |
Dutch Safety Board | This part specifcally refers to the AIVD and the MIVD. For a |
State / | Ministry of |
Page | 94 |
Section / | |
Text to be corrected | Add nuance to ‘The Dutch Safety Board… civil aviation’. The |
Argumentation / | At several points it is stated ‘that no connection was made between |
Dutch Safety Board | This concerns a factual representation of the communications. |
State / | Ministry of The |
Page | 106 |
Section / | 7.3 |
Text to be corrected | Firstly, it requires an integral risk assessment to be performed. |
Argumentation / | Airlines can conduct independent research in this respect |
Dutch Safety Board | The Dutch Safety Board agrees, but also sees a role for states in |
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State / | Ministry of |
Page | 106 |
Section / | |
Text to be corrected | In Chapter 7, on page 106, you state that domestic armed conflicts |
Argumentation / | |
Dutch Safety Board | In Section 11, Recommendations, the required additional efforts |
State / | Ministry of |
Page | 107 |
Section / | 8 |
Text to be corrected | Here there is no context as to whether this was or was not |
Argumentation / | |
Dutch Safety Board | The Dutch Safety Board’s reference framework is not limited to |
State / | Ministry of |
[b]Page | 107 |
Section / | 8 |
Text to be corrected | Delete ‘Consequently it was possible …expanded’ |
Argumentation / | This conclusion could be made with the knowledge acquired with |
Dutch Safety Board | The Dutch Safety Board draws its conclusions based on the |
State / | Ministry of The |
Page | 108 |
Section / | 8 |
Text to be corrected | The AIVD cannot agree with the conclusion formulated with |
Argumentation / | |
Dutch Safety Board | The Dutch Safety Board clarifed the wording of these two |
State / | Ministry of |
Page | 125 |
Section / | Appendix B |
Text to be corrected | Reference is made here to an ‘Aviation Security Manual’, |
Argumentation / | |
Dutch Safety Board | ICAO stipulates that every state must introduce a National Civil |
State / | Ministry of |
Page | 188 |
Section / | Appendix F |
Text to be corrected | In accordance with ICAO Annexes 17 and 6, the focus in ‘Flight |
Argumentation / | |
Dutch Safety Board | The report points out that with regard to aviation security, the |
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State / | USA/FAA |
Page | Overall |
Section / | Overall |
Text to be corrected | |
Argumentation / | • Assuming that neither the FAA nor the air navigation service |
Dutch Safety Board |
State / | USA/FAA |
Page | 40 |
Section / | 3.4 |
Text to be corrected | Non-concur with oversimplifcation of the graphic that |
Argumentation / | The graphic as presented gives the false impression that all of the |
Dutch Safety Board | The fgure only includes incidents that were confrmed by the |
State / | USA/FAA |
Page | 45 |
Section / | 3.5 |
Text to be corrected | Add to the words ‘Except for the FAA NOTAMs issued in the |
Argumentation / | As written, the sentence inaccurately suggests that the FAA had |
Dutch Safety Board | his paragraph concerns the interpretations of the conflict by |
State / | USA/FAA |
Page | 47 |
Section / | 3.7 |
Text to be corrected | This paragraph reflects inaccurate assumptions, as least so far as |
Argumentation / | Protection of civil aircraft from aviation safety hazards related to |
Dutch Safety Board | he fact that civil aviation authorities do perform risk |
State / | USA/FAA |
Page | 47 |
Section / | 3.8 |
Text to be corrected | Non-concur with the similar implication in the following |
Argumentation / | This is an inaccurate implication with regards to the FAA and the |
Dutch Safety Board | The wording has been specifed to the period during which the |
State / | USA/FAA |
Page | 109 |
Section / | 8 |
Text to be corrected | Non-concur with the statement, ‘None of the aviation |
Argumentation / | |
Dutch Safety Board | See above. |
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State / | USA/FAA |
Page | 109 |
Section / | 8 |
Text to be corrected | Non-concur with the statements, ‘None of the other parties |
Argumentation / | Same as above. This is an inaccurate statement with regards to the |
Dutch Safety Board | See above |
State / | USA/FAA |
Page | 109 |
Section / | 8 |
Text to be corrected | The system that is intended to ensure the safety of civil aviation |
Argumentation / | Conclusion is based on a false premise that coordination beyond |
Dutch Safety Board | This conclusion concerns the system of responsibilities and |
State / | USA/FAA |
Page | 143 |
Section / | Appx D |
Text to be corrected | 1980 DC-9 Aerolinee Itavia flight 870, crashed in the Tyrrhenian |
Argumentation / | The cause of this crash has never been defnitively determined from a |
Dutch Safety Board | This section does not specifcally refer to a surface-to-air missile |
State / | USA/FAA |
Page | 187 |
Section / | Appx F |
Text to be corrected | There was also the idea that some authorities possessed threatrelated information that they could or should have shared. |
Argumentation / | Prior to the MH-17 shootdown, the FAA did not have any information |
Dutch Safety Board | General statement; no specifc parties are mentioned here. |
State / | USA/FAA |
Page | 195 |
Section / | Appx F |
Text to be corrected | In other countries, airlines revealed that they had to request |
Argumentation / | While this can promote the free exchange of threat information, it also |
Dutch Safety Board | It is up to the relevant parties to check information for |
State / | USA/FAA |
Page | 203 |
Section / | Appx F |
Text to be corrected | Civil aviation played no role in these analyses. This explains why |
Argumentation / | This is inaccurate. NOTAMs were issued by countries regarding the |
Dutch Safety Board | The NOTAM from March has been incorporated in the report. |
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State / | Russian |
Page | 35 |
Section / | 3.1 |
Text to be corrected | This chapter describes information that the Dutch Safety Board |
Argumentation / | General comment to section 3 of the report: |
Dutch Safety Board | The briefng referred to in the comment was held on 21 July |
State / | Russian |
Page | 36 |
Section / | 3.3 |
Text to be corrected | Following Crimea’s accession to the Russian Federation, the |
Argumentation / | Proposed text: |
Dutch Safety Board | The developments in Crimea were relevant to understanding |
State / | Russian |
Page | 41, 42 |
Section / | 3.4 |
Text to be corrected | On 14 July, three days prior to the crash of flight MH17, a |
Argumentation / | Proposed text: |
Dutch Safety Board | The report reflects what the Ukrainian authorities reported |
State / | Russian |
Page | 43 |
Section / | 3.5 |
Text to be corrected | Public interpretations of the conflict by politicians and |
Argumentation / | Proposed text: 3. The list of reference to the statements of the offcials is done lopsided without regard to the fact that the investigation shall answer |
Dutch Safety Board | The public statements are important for obtaining an idea of the |
State / | Russian |
Page | 45 |
Section / | 3.6 |
Text to be corrected | Reports in the media related to possible available weaponry |
Argumentation / | Proposed text: |
Dutch Safety Board | This paragraph is necessary to provide an effective overview |
State / | Russian |
Page | 45 |
Section / | 3.7 |
Text to be corrected | Non-public sources. |
Argumentation / | Proposed text: |
Dutch Safety Board | See above. |
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State / | Russian |
Page | 47 |
Section / | 3.8 |
Text to be corrected | Sub-conclusions. |
Argumentation / | Proposed text: |
Dutch Safety Board | What the Ukrainian authorities, as the airspace manager, |
State / | Russian |
Page | 62 |
Section / | 4.6 |
Text to be corrected | Since the actual management of the airspace above Eastern |
Argumentation / | Proposed text: |
Dutch Safety Board | The proposed text is too far removed from the quoted text. |
State / | Russian |
Page | 64 |
Section / | 4.7 |
Text to be corrected | The NOTAMs issued by the Ukrainian authorities also lacked |
Argumentation / | Proposed text: |
Dutch Safety Board | The special procedures that are referred to involve the |
State / | Russian |
Page | 66 |
Section / | 4.7 |
Text to be corrected | 4. The weapon systems that the Ukrainian State reported in |
Argumentation / | Proposed text: |
Dutch Safety Board | The Dutch Safety Board was not able to verify the exact event, |
State / | Russian |
Page | 76 |
Section / | 5.5 |
Text to be corrected | Malaysia Airlines says it was not aware of SFAR 113, issued by the |
Argumentation / | Proposed text: |
Dutch Safety Board | The developments in Crimea were relevant to understanding |
State / | Russian |
Page | 78 |
Section / | 5.6 |
Text to be corrected | The statement made by the Ukrainian authorities with regard to |
Argumentation / | Proposed text: |
Dutch Safety Board | The fact that the Ukrainian authorities reported it as such makes |
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State / | Russian |
Page | 78, 79 |
Section / | 5.6 |
Text to be corrected | ICAO stated that it did not receive any request for advice from |
Argumentation / | Proposed text: |
Dutch Safety Board | This point is already addressed in a different manner in |
State / | Russian |
Page | 86, 87 |
Section / | 5.9 |
Text to be corrected | 1. Insofar as the Dutch Safety Board has been able to ascertain, |
Argumentation / | Proposed text: |
Dutch Safety Board | The Dutch Safety Board was unable to verify the circumstances |
State / | Russian |
Page | 87 |
Section / | 5.9 |
Text to be corrected | 3. Airlines and the States in which the airlines are based did not |
Argumentation / | Proposed text: |
Dutch Safety Board | The conclusion refers to reports by the Ukrainian authorities |
State / | Russian |
Page | 96 |
Section / | 6.4.2 |
Text to be corrected | In addition to the Separatists, two other parties were involved in |
Argumentation / | Proposed text: |
Dutch Safety Board | The terminology has been changed to ‘armed factions fghting |
State / | Russian |
Page | 106 |
Section / | 7.3.4 |
Text to be corrected | The scenario involving civil aeroplanes at cruising altitude being |
Argumentation / | Proposed text: |
Dutch Safety Board | The passage concerns a statistic approach of risks. Elsewhere in |
State / | Russian |
Page | 109 |
Section / | 8.1 |
Text to be corrected | c. None of the other parties involved - the airlines, the States of |
Argumentation / | Proposed text: |
Dutch Safety Board | The proposed text is not supported by the fndings in this |
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State / | Russian |
Page | 110 |
Section / | 8.2 |
Text to be corrected | c. It is diffcult for airlines to gather the information they need to |
Argumentation / | Proposed text: |
Dutch Safety Board | The proposed text is not supported by the fndings in this |
State / | Ukraine |
Page | General |
Section / | General |
Text to be corrected | |
Argumentation / | The format of fnal report recommended by Annex 13 to the |
Dutch Safety Board | The Dutch Safety Board does not provide any political |
State / | Ukraine |
Page | 14 |
Section / | Abbreviations |
Text to be corrected | Security Absence of (ie protection against) external threats |
Argumentation / | ICAO defnition of ‘Security’ should be used (ICAO Annex 17, Doc |
Dutch Safety Board | Safety in the broad sense of the word is intended here, |
State / | Ukraine |
Page | 25 |
Section / | 2.1 |
Text to be corrected | This chapter describes the tasks and responsibilities of the |
Argumentation / | The term ‘safety of airspace’ is inconsistent and should be replaced |
Dutch Safety Board | The Dutch Safety Board uses the term safety of airspace based |
State / | Ukraine |
Page | 28 |
Section / | 2.3.1 |
Text to be corrected | It is not explicitly established anywhere that the State managing |
Argumentation / | The term ‘safety of airspace’ is inconsistent and should be replaced |
Dutch Safety Board | ‘Must’ has been replaced by ‘should’; also see above. |
State / | Ukraine |
Page | 35 |
Section / | 3.1 |
Text to be corrected | Were there events and developments prior to the crash of flight |
Argumentation / | Annex 17 ICAO considers the destruction of an airplane in service as |
Dutch Safety Board | The Dutch Safety Board uses the term safety of airspace based |
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State / | Ukraine |
Page | 36 |
Section / | 3.3 |
Text to be corrected | The Dutch Safety Board examined the extent of the availability |
Argumentation / | Defnition ‘airspace security’ provided by Eurocontrol Manual for |
Dutch Safety Board | ICAO defnitions allow room for the selected interpretation, |
State / | Ukraine |
Page | 38 |
Section / | 3.3 |
Text to be corrected | On 16 July 2014, the Russian Federation authorities published |
Argumentation / | Dutch Safety Board did not defne why and how Russian Federation |
Dutch Safety Board | The considerations cited here are not substantiated with facts. |
State / | Ukraine |
Page | 38 |
Section / | 3.4 |
Text to be corrected | During the period between the conflict breaking out in Eastern |
Argumentation / | Illegal armed groups were, and until present remain, under effective |
Dutch Safety Board | The account is factual without going into the question of who |
State / | Ukraine |
Page | 42 |
Section / | 3.4 |
Text to be corrected | It is relevant to the investigation into the crash of flight MH17 |
Argumentation / | Considering the ongoing investigation into the downing of the |
Dutch Safety Board | Given the statements by Ukrainian authorities on the weapon |
State / | Ukraine |
Page | 47 |
Section / | 3.8 |
Text to be corrected | The weapon systems that the authorities cited in their public |
Argumentation / | Considering the available information, it was not possible to estimate |
Dutch Safety Board | Responsibility for the safety of its airspace for civil aviation |
State / | Ukraine |
Page | 54 |
Section / | 4.3 |
Text to be corrected | Later it was revealed that there would have had to be a formal |
Argumentation / | This conclusion does not follow from the written response of |
Dutch Safety Board | Responsibility for the safety of its airspace for civil aviation |
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State / | Ukraine |
Page | 56, 57 |
Section / | 4.4 |
Text to be corrected | Financial consequences (entire chapter should be deleted |
Argumentation / | Financial aspects are not the subject of investigation in accordance |
Dutch Safety Board | For the investigation, all the factors that could play a role in the |
State / | Ukraine |
Page | 61, 62 |
Section / | 4.5 |
Text to be corrected | In conflicts in which States are involved (directly or indirectly) |
Argumentation / | There could be another ways for terrorists to obtain weapon, |
Dutch Safety Board | The wording does not rule out these other possibilities |
State / | Ukraine |
Page | 62 |
Section / | 4.6 |
Text to be corrected | This decision involved the consideration that military air traffc |
Argumentation / | The statement made by the Dutch Safety Board misinterprets |
Dutch Safety Board | The weapon systems and altitudes cited by Ukraine in its |
State / | Ukraine |
Page | 62 |
Section / | 4.6 |
Text to be corrected | As a result, the Ukrainian authorities supposedly had a limited |
Argumentation / | The text should be deleted as unwarrantable assumptions. Moreover |
Dutch Safety Board | The text is based on statements by the Ukrainian authorities. |
State / | Ukraine |
Page | 63 |
Section / | 4.6 |
Text to be corrected | Such a development may constitute a threat to civil aviation |
Argumentation / | The text should be either deleted as an unwarrantable assumption or |
Dutch Safety Board | Given the statements by Ukrainian authorities on the weapon |
State / | Ukraine |
Page | 64 |
Section / | 4.6 |
Text to be corrected | UkSATSE and SASU Stated that they were not aware of the |
Argumentation / | Viewed from the perspective of the Ukrainian civil aviation authorities |
Dutch Safety Board | The statements made by the Ukrainian authorities in which they |
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State / | Ukraine |
Page | 64 |
Section / | 4.6 |
Text to be corrected | The parties concerned did not use the opportunity to explain |
Argumentation / | The text should be either deleted or modifed. |
Dutch Safety Board | The altered text makes it clearer that ICAO Doc 9554 AN/932 is |
State / | Ukraine |
Page | 65 |
Section / | 4.6 |
Text to be corrected | This meant that airspace users were not fully informed |
Argumentation / | Unwarranted assumption, taking into account Annex 15, Doc 9554 |
Dutch Safety Board | See above |
State / | Ukraine |
Page | 65 |
Section / | 4.6 |
Text to be corrected | Considerations other than those related to safety may have |
Argumentation / | This statement is of a prejudiced nature and is based on unconfrmed |
Dutch Safety Board | All possible factors should be investigated. On the basis of this |
State / | Ukraine |
Page | 66 |
Section / | 4.7 |
Text to be corrected | Sub-conclusions |
Argumentation / | Ukrainian side disagrees with the sub-conclusions. The subconclusions should be totally revised upon the Ukrainian comments to |
Dutch Safety Board | The text of the conclusions have been modifed slightly in |
State / | Ukraine |
Page | 97 |
Section / | 6.4.2 |
Text to be corrected | virtually daily. Initially, the emphasis was on the situation in |
Argumentation / | UN RESOLUTION ARES8² |
Dutch Safety Board | The Dutch Safety Board does not provide any political |
State / | Ukraine |
Page | 102 |
Section / | 7.2 |
Text to be corrected | As far as Ukraine was concerned, the military interests took |
Argumentation / | We do not agree with such conclusion in view of the above mentioned |
Dutch Safety Board | The fndings in this investigation point out that decisions related |
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State / | Ukraine |
Page | 107 |
Section / | 7.3.5 |
Text to be corrected | The above shows that intra-national armed conflicts especially |
Argumentation / | There exists overwhelming evidence that armed bands, groups and |
Dutch Safety Board | With regard to the type of the conflict the terminology has been |
State / | Ukraine |
Page | 101 |
Section / | 7 |
Text to be corrected | |
Argumentation / | The abovementioned corrections and amendments (including but |
Dutch Safety Board | See above. |
State / | Ukraine |
Page | 109 |
Section / | 8 |
Text to be corrected | Main conclusions (all lines) |
Argumentation / | Ukrainian side disagrees with main conclusions. The main conclusions |
Dutch Safety Board | The argumentation and the conclusions have been clarifed |
State / | Ukraine |
Page | 109 |
Section / | 8 |
Text to be corrected | |
Argumentation / | The abovementioned corrections and amendments (including but not |
Dutch Safety Board | See above. |
State / | Ukraine |
Page | 111 |
Section / | Appendix A |
Text to be corrected | …regional newspapers… newspapers controlled by the militants |
Argumentation / | This term is inapplicable for the media representing illegal armed |
Dutch Safety Board | This is a reference to regional newspapers in general terms. |
State / | Ukraine |
Page | 145 |
Section / | Appendix E |
Text to be corrected | …conflict in Ukraine… situation in Ukraine |
Argumentation / | There was no conflict in Ukraine at that time in full sense of the word |
Dutch Safety Board | The Appendix is used as input for the main report. The |
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State / | Ukraine |
Page | 145 |
Section / | Appendix E |
Text to be corrected | …was annexed… was illegally occupied. |
Argumentation / | Based upon the generally recognized interpretation of the actions of |
Dutch Safety Board | See above |
State / | Ukraine |
Page | 145 |
Section / | Appendix E |
Text to be corrected | …pro-Russian separatists (referred to hereafter as the |
Argumentation / | This term is inapplicable for the illegal armed groups acting in certain |
Dutch Safety Board | See above. |
State / | Ukraine |
Page | 145 |
Section / | Appendix E |
Text to be corrected | The MIVD’s information indicates that the Separatists illegal |
Argumentation / | Inapplicable as the counter-terrorist operation was offcially launched |
Dutch Safety Board | See above. |
State / | Ukraine |
Page | 145 |
Section / | Appendix E |
Text to be corrected | ‘so-called’ |
Argumentation / | Inapplicable as the counter-terrorist operation was offcially launched |
Dutch Safety Board | See above. |
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State / | Malaysia |
Page | 85 |
Section / | 5.8 |
Text to be corrected | In other words, Malaysia Airlines based its decision virtually |
Argumentation / | It is incorrect to state that MAS did not perform its own additional risk |
Dutch Safety Board | In this specifc case, Malaysia Airlines did not perform its own |
State / | Malaysia |
Page | 86 |
Section / | 5.8 |
Text to be corrected | Some caution has to be applied when drawing conclusions |
Argumentation / | To be more precise and clear on the position of Malaysia Airlines in |
Dutch Safety Board | This paragraph concerns airlines that stopped doing so in |
State / | Malaysia |
Page | 114 |
Section / | Appendix A |
Text to be corrected | The Dutch Safety Board would also have liked to meet with the |
Argumentation / | DCA has provide cooperation by answering the written questions and |
Dutch Safety Board | Requests by the Dutch Safety Board to interview offcials from |